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	<title>Comments on: A Smooch on a Pure White Canvas: Art or Atrocity?</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Capella, if you had read the thread... just  a few posts up from yours you would have had the answer to your question.

Second, this is not about the merit of the art.  I think it sounds silly, too.  And yes, that a canvas painted white could be worth millions is kind of ridiculous.  But, that&#039;s not the issue here.  The issue here is that she defaced something that wasn&#039;t hers.  

I&#039;m not exactly a fan of private property, and I&#039;m certainly not against vandalism on principle, so I&#039;m not going to call for her head.  But what you need to recognize is that if you&#039;re saying she should get off, you&#039;re saying vandalism is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Capella, if you had read the thread&#8230; just  a few posts up from yours you would have had the answer to your question.</p>
<p>Second, this is not about the merit of the art.  I think it sounds silly, too.  And yes, that a canvas painted white could be worth millions is kind of ridiculous.  But, that&#8217;s not the issue here.  The issue here is that she defaced something that wasn&#8217;t hers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly a fan of private property, and I&#8217;m certainly not against vandalism on principle, so I&#8217;m not going to call for her head.  But what you need to recognize is that if you&#8217;re saying she should get off, you&#8217;re saying vandalism is ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Capella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, why didn&#039;t they just replace the &quot;art&quot; with another blank canvas. How would they know it&#039;s not the real one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, why didn&#8217;t they just replace the &#8220;art&#8221; with another blank canvas. How would they know it&#8217;s not the real one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no fan of Twombly, but the woman is clearly an idiot. The act is indefensible, and whether you like the piece or not is irrelevant. Geez, how did I know that there would be people defending her actions? Because stupidity trumps common sense way too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of Twombly, but the woman is clearly an idiot. The act is indefensible, and whether you like the piece or not is irrelevant. Geez, how did I know that there would be people defending her actions? Because stupidity trumps common sense way too often.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Priscilla, it&#039;s not a blank canvas &quot;to everyone.&quot;  It&#039;s a blank canvas to you, and people who share your sensibilities about art.  But not everyone.

And even if only two people were to care for it -- the artist, and the collector -- it would still be valuable to those people.  Why is that a bad thing?  You like what you like, and they like what they like.  I don&#039;t understand the vitriol I&#039;m reading in so many of these posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Priscilla, it&#8217;s not a blank canvas &#8220;to everyone.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a blank canvas to you, and people who share your sensibilities about art.  But not everyone.</p>
<p>And even if only two people were to care for it &#8212; the artist, and the collector &#8212; it would still be valuable to those people.  Why is that a bad thing?  You like what you like, and they like what they like.  I don&#8217;t understand the vitriol I&#8217;m reading in so many of these posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Siduri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siduri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I like it more with the lipstick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I like it more with the lipstick.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture in her right hand is a blown-up reproduction of the stain, not the actual size of her lips.

Yes, she defaced a white-painted canvas, but come on, you can get lipstick marks off.

I don&#039;t care if he painted it white artistically. This &quot;painting&quot; further plunges &quot;art&quot; into the realm of the elitists and elitist wannabes, and out of the average person&#039;s interest.

Ditto what Mark ElRayes said, except I don&#039;t know any girls named Art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture in her right hand is a blown-up reproduction of the stain, not the actual size of her lips.</p>
<p>Yes, she defaced a white-painted canvas, but come on, you can get lipstick marks off.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if he painted it white artistically. This &#8220;painting&#8221; further plunges &#8220;art&#8221; into the realm of the elitists and elitist wannabes, and out of the average person&#8217;s interest.</p>
<p>Ditto what Mark ElRayes said, except I don&#8217;t know any girls named Art.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian Twombly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian Twombly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First - yes, I share Twombly&#039;s last name.  We are likely remotely related but I&#039;ve never met the man.

This woman did deface the art.  Anyone who has seen a Rauschenberg White Painting knows what I&#039;m talking about.  However - Rauschenberg, who Twombly traveled with in Rome in the 50&#039;s - erased a Dekoonig to great effect.  Duchamp&#039;s great work &quot;The Bride Stripped Bare by her 
Bachelors&quot; was broken during shipping and Duchamp left it in that state.

Have we heard from Twombly yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First &#8211; yes, I share Twombly&#8217;s last name.  We are likely remotely related but I&#8217;ve never met the man.</p>
<p>This woman did deface the art.  Anyone who has seen a Rauschenberg White Painting knows what I&#8217;m talking about.  However &#8211; Rauschenberg, who Twombly traveled with in Rome in the 50&#8242;s &#8211; erased a Dekoonig to great effect.  Duchamp&#8217;s great work &#8220;The Bride Stripped Bare by her<br />
Bachelors&#8221; was broken during shipping and Duchamp left it in that state.</p>
<p>Have we heard from Twombly yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Priscilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priscilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c-dub...to everyone its still a blank canvas. i like it with the lipstick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c-dub&#8230;to everyone its still a blank canvas. i like it with the lipstick.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a canvas that&#039;s been painted with white paint, not a blank canvas.  And it&#039;s not just an even, flat white.  I&#039;ve seen the painting: you can see the hand of the artist at work in the way the paint is layered.  If you&#039;re not one to appreciate subtlety, you probably wouldn&#039;t like it -- but I probably wouldn&#039;t like the dreck you&#039;ve got hanging over your sofa, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a canvas that&#8217;s been painted with white paint, not a blank canvas.  And it&#8217;s not just an even, flat white.  I&#8217;ve seen the painting: you can see the hand of the artist at work in the way the paint is layered.  If you&#8217;re not one to appreciate subtlety, you probably wouldn&#8217;t like it &#8212; but I probably wouldn&#8217;t like the dreck you&#8217;ve got hanging over your sofa, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeuomorph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeuomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her phrase, &quot;an act of love&quot;, reflects a graffiti phrase from one of Cy&#039;s paintings: Wilder shores of love.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/T/twombly/twombly_wilder.jpg.html

I wonder why that detail wasn&#039;t reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her phrase, &#8220;an act of love&#8221;, reflects a graffiti phrase from one of Cy&#8217;s paintings: Wilder shores of love.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artchive.com/artchive/T/twombly/twombly_wilder.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.artchive.com/artchive/T/twombly/twombly_wilder.jpg.html</a></p>
<p>I wonder why that detail wasn&#8217;t reported.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark ElRayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark ElRayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More proof, art is dead and we are all motherfuckers fucking her to death.

art being a girl.

Anywho, I can&#039;t stand how conceptual art has become.  The method is lost to sheer mind numbing simplicity and we call it art.  Its the same reason a growing number of people are using segways.

Soon we&#039;ll just plug in.

I hate the matrix. (kidding)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More proof, art is dead and we are all motherfuckers fucking her to death.</p>
<p>art being a girl.</p>
<p>Anywho, I can&#8217;t stand how conceptual art has become.  The method is lost to sheer mind numbing simplicity and we call it art.  Its the same reason a growing number of people are using segways.</p>
<p>Soon we&#8217;ll just plug in.</p>
<p>I hate the matrix. (kidding)</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Stuphor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biff Stuphor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally, I would deplor the defacing of a work of art.  Not this time.  Ironically, the lipstick will probably make the value go up.  Who would possibly buy a blank canvas for that much?  It&#039;s not like you could brag about it.  People would either think you just got a canvas at the art store and that you&#039;re a liar, or that you&#039;re the biggest dupe in the history of art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally, I would deplor the defacing of a work of art.  Not this time.  Ironically, the lipstick will probably make the value go up.  Who would possibly buy a blank canvas for that much?  It&#8217;s not like you could brag about it.  People would either think you just got a canvas at the art store and that you&#8217;re a liar, or that you&#8217;re the biggest dupe in the history of art.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about foolish junque...  This kind of nonsense actually makes me embrace the Impressionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about foolish junque&#8230;  This kind of nonsense actually makes me embrace the Impressionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go down to the art supply store, buy new white canvas, problem solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go down to the art supply store, buy new white canvas, problem solved!</p>
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		<title>By: Keeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The true insanity is that a piece of white canvas could be valued at valued at €2 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The true insanity is that a piece of white canvas could be valued at valued at €2 million.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Non.E.Mous</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.Non.E.Mous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is that the piece is now more worthy of being called art than it was previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is that the piece is now more worthy of being called art than it was previously.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &#039;artist&#039; in question , Cy Twombly, is male, the kisser is female and should be let off the hook.

art world is garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8216;artist&#8217; in question , Cy Twombly, is male, the kisser is female and should be let off the hook.</p>
<p>art world is garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J&#039;ai fait juste un bisou.

Stupid girl. And the trial is just after somebody punched and tore a Monet painting in Paris. Bad timing.

The expo in the Hotel de Caumont was called &quot;a Scattering of Blossoms and other Things&quot;, I guess they didn&#039;t have lipstick in mind. Nice expo, with the permanent Yvon Lambert modern art collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J&#8217;ai fait juste un bisou.</p>
<p>Stupid girl. And the trial is just after somebody punched and tore a Monet painting in Paris. Bad timing.</p>
<p>The expo in the Hotel de Caumont was called &#8220;a Scattering of Blossoms and other Things&#8221;, I guess they didn&#8217;t have lipstick in mind. Nice expo, with the permanent Yvon Lambert modern art collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That b*tch has some huge lips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That b*tch has some huge lips!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an example of the bourgeois BS surrounding minimalist non-art.  Just because she added the word &quot;pure&quot; to the moniker &quot;white canvas&quot; doesn&#039;t make it anymore special than a blank canvas.  So now, of course, she is miffed that someone actually made something interesting on her &quot;art.&quot;  

Gah, I can&#039;t stand these phonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an example of the bourgeois BS surrounding minimalist non-art.  Just because she added the word &#8220;pure&#8221; to the moniker &#8220;white canvas&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make it anymore special than a blank canvas.  So now, of course, she is miffed that someone actually made something interesting on her &#8220;art.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Gah, I can&#8217;t stand these phonies.</p>
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