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12 comments to "Profiles in Carnage: Vlad the Impaler (1431 - 1476)"
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Cristina
August 31st, 2007 at
6:55 am
I’m Romanian and I can tell you the truth.
Vlad was a hero for our people.
He wasn’t send by his father; he was taken/abducted by Turks.
You see Turks took boys each year from every country they conquered and trained them to be fighters for their army.He was smart so Turks put him to be king of Romanian country. He, of course, promised loyalty to them.
But as soon as they made him king, he fought them back.
These 30,000 people you are taken about were Turks. He beat them and as a reminder for those who still thought to come and conquer Romania, impaled them.
(”In fact, he liked the practice so much he once impaled 30,000 people at one time, for violations of some trade law or other (those of higher social standing got longer spikes).”)
By the way, he didn’t invent it. It was common practice for criminals in medieval each. His invention was using it for enemies and for large groups of people at once.And yes, he chose to have dinner next to the “forest” of impaled. It was a publicity campaign (as it might be called now). The word spread and the message was “This is what will happen for those who come to occupy Romania!”
And yes, he impaled also criminals and other wrong doers.
As a consequence my country enjoyed a time of peace and order.
“Impaling wasn’t Vlad’s only pastime. He also enjoyed having people physically disfigured, skinned, dismembered, boiled, eviscerated, or blinded while he watched, and frequently while he ate. His supposed habit of drinking his victims’ blood and eating their flesh led to Dracula vampire stories we all know so well. If you happened to be a guest at one of his impaling dinners and you got queasy or expressed disgust, guest what - you got impaled.”
This is totally fake. Only truth here is about his name: Dracul. It literally means the devil. Turks called him this, for us he was Vlad.
And also: no, he didn’t kill the old and sick.
He wouldn’t have enjoyed the good reputation he had. He is as one of the most loved and respected Romanian voievozi (kings).
The vampire myth is a merge of several Romanian myths about: varcolac, vampire and about Vlad. The guy who invented this story read several books about Romanian and combined them, giving the vampire name one famous name he came across in his enemies’ stories.
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James
August 31st, 2007 at
7:18 am
Interesting story although it seems difficult to discern fact from fiction.
But this Vlad guy seems to have been one sick guy. Or maybe the whole age was sick at the time …
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Justin
August 31st, 2007 at
8:39 am
I’m sure he was a pretty rough guy, but I wonder how many of those stories were inventions after he died by foreign rulers, or proceeding kings who want to seem better than their compared to him.
King1: Hey guys calm down, you think I’m Bad, Vlad over there impales people for fun! Did I mention he’s the devil incarnate?
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Petra
August 31st, 2007 at
8:52 am
I was popping over to bring up what Cristina already wrote.
I’m of Greek decent (raised Greek Orthodox) and these things depend on who you ask. There was no option in giving your boys to be Janissaries for the Turks. It also made occupied countries unwilling to take up arms against their occupiers because you would be fighting your own children. So Vlad was a hostage/”soldier” for the very people who had invaded his country.
Vlad is much loved by the people over in Romania. He was/is seen as their deliver.
On the other hand the Russians are pretty fond of Igor the Terrible.
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Powell
August 31st, 2007 at
8:55 am
I have noticed of late that articles from mental floss seem to be very sensational, and judging. I think they sacrifice fact for a supposed “neat” story.
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BelchSpeak
August 31st, 2007 at
9:48 am
Vlad was one of the first to fight against Islamic terror. Those bastards he impaled were Muslims- the same bastards who had just invaded the Christian capital and were now marching at his doorsteps. The same muslims who were stealing the children of Europeans to make them sex slaves for the new Caliphate.
They got what they deserved. Vlad was awesome. I laughed out loud reading about how the towel-wearing Turks disrespected him in his own house by refusing to remove their hats. Won’t take it off for Vlad? By God they will never remove it for anyone!
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Istvan
August 31st, 2007 at
11:43 am
The 30,000 impaled was actually Vlad’s form of defense.
Those impaled Turks were a vanguard of an even larger Turkish force. A force that out-numbered Vlad’s army. When the Turkish army came upon the impaled one, that army turned around out of fear. Wallachia was safe again.
The Turks conquered much of Eastern Europe but they never got Vlad’s piece of it.
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Jamnocerous
August 31st, 2007 at
5:25 pm
Anyone who finds this interesting should check out The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova.
http://www.amazon.com/Historian-Elizabeth-Kostova/dp/0316154547
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Ali S.
August 31st, 2007 at
6:34 pm
Uh oh. I spot a spelling error!
“If you happened to be a guest at one of his impaling dinners and you got queasy or expressed disgust, guest what - you got impaled.”
It says “…guest what…” when infact it should be “…guess what…”
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Alex
August 31st, 2007 at
8:02 pm
Oops - thanks Ali S.! Fixed now.
Now on to more meaty stuff:
>>He wasn’t send by his father; he was taken/abducted by Turks. You see Turks took boys each year from every country they conquered and trained them to be fighters for their army.
Oh no, Vlad II (Vlad the Impaler’s father) was ordered by the King of Hungary to fulfill his oath and drive the Turks out of Europe. He declined, and was kicked off his throne. Vlad II later regained his throne *with the help* of the Turks, which he courted. As insurance, the Turks insisted that Vlad II send his sons Vlad III (the Impaler) and Radu as hostage to the Ottoman Empire.
>> These 30,000 people you are taken about were Turks. He beat them and as a reminder for those who still thought to come and conquer Romania, impaled them.
Not in the beginning - those 30,000 people are mostly merchants and boyars from the the Transylvanian city of BraÅŸov. This was before the Turks tried to invade Wallachia (*that* was because their puppet, Vlad III The Impaler, decided not to pay tribute to the Ottoman Empire anymore).
Of course, as he defeated some of the Turkish invaders, he did impale them too.
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Pan
August 31st, 2007 at
11:55 pm
well if it worked then go for it and they were turks so all i can say is bravo(me also being of greek decent)
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Alex
September 1st, 2007 at
12:40 am
>> Those impaled Turks were a vanguard of an even larger Turkish force. A force that out-numbered Vlad’s army. When the Turkish army came upon the impaled one, that army turned around out of fear. Wallachia was safe again.
>> The Turks conquered much of Eastern Europe but they never got Vlad’s piece of it.
Actually, the first Turkish invaders were so disgusted by Vlad’s mass impalements of his subjects that many of them simply turned away. The ones that attacked were repelled by Vlad (and the survivors captured and impaled), but subsequent, larger Turkish forces (led by Vlad’s brother Radu) actually succeeded in capturing Wallachia.
Vlad the Impaler ran away, and was imprisoned by Hungary.
If you think he did the impalement thingy simply to scare the Turks away (or to impose order), consider this: he didn’t just like impaling people en masse - he liked to *arrange* the impaled bodies in geometric patterns.
Vlad actually enjoyed impaling things so much that when he couldn’t impale people while in Hungarian captivity, he impaled rats and insects that he captured in his cell.
He’s one sick guy, all right!
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