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	<title>Comments on: 4 Utopian Communities That Bombed Miserably</title>
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		<title>By: Kayla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kayla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am doing a big project in school on Utopias. We have to create a virtual Utopia. Not a real functioning one but we have to figure out a system then somehow present it. I am trying to get good grade, and I need to know of some full functioning utopias. Things I need to know about are  things that put them into the category of a utopia, like some of the things that wouldn&#039;t make them perfect, how did they they deal with everyday problems. We are currently reading the book &quot;The Giver&quot; if you have not read it yet it is amazing. Its about a fully functioning utopia that has been around for hundreds of years. They have somethings called sameness they go by. Now of course this in Fiction but its a must read and for my project Im trying to find some original ideas that are not mentioned in book. Things like methods of transportation,clothing, jobs. Any information you may have along those lines about any successful utopias please email me at kaylascandles@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a big project in school on Utopias. We have to create a virtual Utopia. Not a real functioning one but we have to figure out a system then somehow present it. I am trying to get good grade, and I need to know of some full functioning utopias. Things I need to know about are  things that put them into the category of a utopia, like some of the things that wouldn't make them perfect, how did they they deal with everyday problems. We are currently reading the book "The Giver" if you have not read it yet it is amazing. Its about a fully functioning utopia that has been around for hundreds of years. They have somethings called sameness they go by. Now of course this in Fiction but its a must read and for my project Im trying to find some original ideas that are not mentioned in book. Things like methods of transportation,clothing, jobs. Any information you may have along those lines about any successful utopias please email me at <a href="mailto:kaylascandles@aol.com">kaylascandles@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: lUCy.</title>
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		<dc:creator>lUCy.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thiNk UtOPiAN SOCitiES ARE tHE WORSt thiNqS thAt COUld EVER hAPPEN ON EARth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thiNk UtOPiAN SOCitiES ARE tHE WORSt thiNqS thAt COUld EVER hAPPEN ON EARth.</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if there are any current active Utopian community&#039;s active in the world that i can research? I am researching Byrdcliff but are there any more that are less relgious and more into art etc like Byrdcliff...

if so please email me a link besides wikipeda as i cant use it in my essay. Appreciate the help if anyone can.: beardrewz@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if there are any current active Utopian community's active in the world that i can research? I am researching Byrdcliff but are there any more that are less relgious and more into art etc like Byrdcliff...</p>
<p>if so please email me a link besides wikipeda as i cant use it in my essay. Appreciate the help if anyone can.: <a href="mailto:beardrewz@hotmail.com">beardrewz@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and my friend are doing a project on Utopian societies and were needing infomation about how many there were in certain years. This gave us a lot of good information and ideas for our project.

I think the Utopians/communities are fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and my friend are doing a project on Utopian societies and were needing infomation about how many there were in certain years. This gave us a lot of good information and ideas for our project.</p>
<p>I think the Utopians/communities are fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: MoonCake</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoonCake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice name-drop, erwin.  what a creepy game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice name-drop, erwin.  what a creepy game.</p>
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		<title>By: onur</title>
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		<dc:creator>onur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, don&#039;t forget the failed atheist town of Liberal, MO

http://www.twoorthree.net/2007/06/liberal_mo_anot.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, don't forget the failed atheist town of Liberal, MO</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twoorthree.net/2007/06/liberal_mo_anot.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.twoorthree.net/2007/06/liberal_mo_anot.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well: at least none of the inhabitants of the aforementioned groups ended like the people of Rapture... ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock

Cheers
Erwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well: at least none of the inhabitants of the aforementioned groups ended like the people of Rapture... <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock</a></p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Erwin</p>
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		<title>By: SmartyDeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmartyDeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 05:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Shaker *religion* may have survived, but the commune didn&#039;t.

The &#039;capitalist&#039; utopia is quite telling. Pullman&#039;s greed (ie, human greed) counteracted the ideals, proving it&#039;s a system that will collapse on itself just as much as any other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shaker *religion* may have survived, but the commune didn't.</p>
<p>The 'capitalist' utopia is quite telling. Pullman's greed (ie, human greed) counteracted the ideals, proving it's a system that will collapse on itself just as much as any other.</p>
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		<title>By: MadMolecule</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadMolecule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many in the group of residents saw manual labor as spiritually inhibiting...&quot;

I gotta try that one on my boss.

Or I would, if I had a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Many in the group of residents saw manual labor as spiritually inhibiting..."</p>
<p>I gotta try that one on my boss.</p>
<p>Or I would, if I had a job.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also Sointula in British Columbia.  I think it only lasted four years or so as a &quot;utopia&quot; (though the town exists to this day).

http://www.island.net/~sointula/history.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's also Sointula in British Columbia.  I think it only lasted four years or so as a "utopia" (though the town exists to this day).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.island.net/~sointula/history.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.island.net/~sointula/history.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cybele</title>
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		<dc:creator>cybele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I don&#039;t think the Shakers belong on there. They may have dwindled in number and only survived for, oh, 200 years, but not because of any particular failure that would qualify as &quot;bombed miserably&quot;. And they left behind some nice furniture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don't think the Shakers belong on there. They may have dwindled in number and only survived for, oh, 200 years, but not because of any particular failure that would qualify as "bombed miserably". And they left behind some nice furniture.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if it was &quot;hardcore&quot; utopian or not, but this article reminded me of Rugby, TN.

http://www.historicrugby.org/history/history.htm

A gorgeous place to visit with several nice B&amp;B&#039;s still operating (for profit, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if it was "hardcore" utopian or not, but this article reminded me of Rugby, TN.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.historicrugby.org/history/history.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.historicrugby.org/history/history.htm</a></p>
<p>A gorgeous place to visit with several nice B&amp;B's still operating (for profit, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Oneida Soceity in upstate NY is another good one. It survived for about 30 years (pretty good by comarison to most) and its remants still exist as the Oneida company that makes silverware.

Read about the Oneida Society -- they had some pretty peculiar practices regard plural marriage, sexual practice, eugenics, &amp;c.

Kudos to Steven for the recognition of the USSR&#039;s own failed experiment.

Finally, the current planned Free State Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project) is worthy of mention.  They&#039;ve got a tough row to hoe, considering that New Hampshire is already pretty well populated. It&#039;s not like Utah which was essential open (&#039;cept for some pesky Indians) for the Mormons. It will be tough for them to attain critical mass, but I&#039;m tempted to sign up :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oneida Soceity in upstate NY is another good one. It survived for about 30 years (pretty good by comarison to most) and its remants still exist as the Oneida company that makes silverware.</p>
<p>Read about the Oneida Society -- they had some pretty peculiar practices regard plural marriage, sexual practice, eugenics, &amp;c.</p>
<p>Kudos to Steven for the recognition of the USSR's own failed experiment.</p>
<p>Finally, the current planned Free State Project (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project</a>) is worthy of mention.  They've got a tough row to hoe, considering that New Hampshire is already pretty well populated. It's not like Utah which was essential open ('cept for some pesky Indians) for the Mormons. It will be tough for them to attain critical mass, but I'm tempted to sign up <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? No mention of the Soviet Union?</description>
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		<title>By: Carl Huber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Huber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, the Shakes (and the Quakers) still exist today. Okay, so their number have dwindled, sure, but they still do exist. I don&#039;t know what I&#039;d call it &quot;bombed miserably&quot; compared to the other people who couldn&#039;t figure out how to feed themselves.

My grandparents were Quakers. Absolutely amazing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, the Shakes (and the Quakers) still exist today. Okay, so their number have dwindled, sure, but they still do exist. I don't know what I'd call it "bombed miserably" compared to the other people who couldn't figure out how to feed themselves.</p>
<p>My grandparents were Quakers. Absolutely amazing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dim67</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dim67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Seo Says:
      August 17th, 2007 at 2:46 am

      Lets not forget the Jim Jones Massacre of a few decades ago - although more religious than Utopean, it still deserves a comparison

I think there is a difference between religious cults and utopian communities, but some could be a combination of the two, like the Waco Texas community and global communities like Baghwan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Seo Says:<br />
      August 17th, 2007 at 2:46 am</p>
<p>      Lets not forget the Jim Jones Massacre of a few decades ago - although more religious than Utopean, it still deserves a comparison</p>
<p>I think there is a difference between religious cults and utopian communities, but some could be a combination of the two, like the Waco Texas community and global communities like Baghwan.</p>
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		<title>By: Seo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not forget the Jim Jones Massacre of a few decades ago - although more religious than Utopean, it still deserves a comparison</description>
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