Comments on: Staring Down Supercow's Butt. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:21:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147862 meg Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:32:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147862 the cow doesn't appear fertile, though...for a dry cow or a heifer, her udders are very deformed. @fluff It's true that it's not restricted to france, but pretty much every industrial nation has prohibited it, and some even prohibit fois gras from regions that are known to do that. France didn't give a crap about how everyone else was doing the right thing, they just kept on force-feeding their geese, and still do to this day...france really doesn't follow progressive things. the cow doesn't appear fertile, though...for a dry cow or a heifer, her udders are very deformed.

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It's true that it's not restricted to france, but pretty much every industrial nation has prohibited it, and some even prohibit fois gras from regions that are known to do that. France didn't give a crap about how everyone else was doing the right thing, they just kept on force-feeding their geese, and still do to this day...france really doesn't follow progressive things.

]]> By: Padraig http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147761 Padraig Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:53:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147761 @meg - thanks for pointing the picture out. Must have missed it going through the whole lot. @meg - thanks for pointing the picture out. Must have missed it going through the whole lot.

]]> By: fluff http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147593 fluff Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:14:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147593 Oh well; what about going to france and see the vast amount of space (compared to any other industrialised country) a major part of the cows have got there. (charolais anyone? La bourgogne?). (Don't get me wrong here; goose force feeding is horrible, but not restricted to france...) Oh well; what about going to france and see the vast amount of space (compared to any other industrialised country) a major part of the cows have got there. (charolais anyone? La bourgogne?). (Don't get me wrong here; goose force feeding is horrible, but not restricted to france...)

]]> By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147496 meg Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:05:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147496 oh my, yeah...turkey, chicken, and pig farms are notoriously cruel. but if you want real cruelty, go to france and see the goose farms where they make fois gras :( oh my, yeah...turkey, chicken, and pig farms are notoriously cruel. but if you want real cruelty, go to france and see the goose farms where they make fois gras :(

]]> By: MoniA http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147350 MoniA Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:03:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147350 and excuse the typos please. typing is not what I do best ;) and excuse the typos please. typing is not what I do best ;)

]]> By: MoniA http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147346 MoniA Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:01:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147346 The factory farms I'm referring to are in North Carolina. They were turkeys and pigs. They were very cruel. I saw it. Animals laying in their own waste, no space to hardly turn around, fed nothing but pelleted food and given a lot of antibiotics. I wanted to bring them some fresh greens from my garden but the farmer said they wouldn't know what to do with it because it would be so unfamiliar to them. I know some of guys who work there and may parents live near the farms, so we actually know a LOT about this. One turkey farm I know of gives there turkeys so much growth hormones to "beef" them up that they lost about 1000 turkeys from heart failure. I heard that cattle were also mistreated but haven't seen that with my own eyes other than some sorry cattle being transported in trucks. And I don't agree with many things PETA does. I think they may do some good but I feel they are too extreme. For one thing I think fishing is a great activity for families even though I don't eat fish. It's a great way to experience nature. It makes me want to preserve the quality of our lakes, streams and oceans etc. I know I got a bit off topic but anyway, hopefully you get the idea. I wasn't referring specifically to the treatment of cattle but rather the animals being raised for food in general. I'm sure some farms treat animals quite humanly. I just happen to know that many don't. The factory farms I'm referring to are in North Carolina. They were turkeys and pigs. They were very cruel. I saw it. Animals laying in their own waste, no space to hardly turn around, fed nothing but pelleted food and given a lot of antibiotics. I wanted to bring them some fresh greens from my garden but the farmer said they wouldn't know what to do with it because it would be so unfamiliar to them. I know some of guys who work there and may parents live near the farms, so we actually know a LOT about this. One turkey farm I know of gives there turkeys so much growth hormones to "beef" them up that they lost about 1000 turkeys from heart failure. I heard that cattle were also mistreated but haven't seen that with my own eyes other than some sorry cattle being transported in trucks. And I don't agree with many things PETA does. I think they may do some good but I feel they are too extreme. For one thing I think fishing is a great activity for families even though I don't eat fish. It's a great way to experience nature. It makes me want to preserve the quality of our lakes, streams and oceans etc. I know I got a bit off topic but anyway, hopefully you get the idea. I wasn't referring specifically to the treatment of cattle but rather the animals being raised for food in general. I'm sure some farms treat animals quite humanly. I just happen to know that many don't.

]]> By: fluff http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-147060 fluff Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:00:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-147060 Oops...yep ham is pig. But I was so mesmerised imagining those massive legs on my table that I totally ignored the front end of the animal. And you have to admit that it has something pig-like... Oops...yep ham is pig. But I was so mesmerised imagining those massive legs on my table that I totally ignored the front end of the animal. And you have to admit that it has something pig-like...

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146911 Alex Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:00:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146911 Thanks for the clarification, meg and c-dub! I've always thought that "cow" refers to both the male and female cattle. Thanks for the clarification, meg and c-dub! I've always thought that "cow" refers to both the male and female cattle.

]]> By: c-dub http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146884 c-dub Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:18:55 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146884 Alex, cow is by definition the adult female of cattle -- so a bull is no more a a "male cow" than a man is a "male woman." Technically, that's the case, anyway, but in common usage the word cow is often used for either sex. A bull, on the other hand, is an uncastrated male, and a steer is a castrated male (if it's castrated before reaching sexual maturity, that is -- if it's castrated after, it's a technically a stag, although that's not a commonly used term). Alex, cow is by definition the adult female of cattle -- so a bull is no more a a "male cow" than a man is a "male woman." Technically, that's the case, anyway, but in common usage the word cow is often used for either sex. A bull, on the other hand, is an uncastrated male, and a steer is a castrated male (if it's castrated before reaching sexual maturity, that is -- if it's castrated after, it's a technically a stag, although that's not a commonly used term).

]]> By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146849 meg Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:10:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146849 @ alex it all depends on how you use the term. most people in the industry only use the term cow in reference to the female, and bovine or cattle in reference to either. most people, however, just call them cows. I don't think either way is wrong. @ alex

it all depends on how you use the term. most people in the industry only use the term cow in reference to the female, and bovine or cattle in reference to either. most people, however, just call them cows. I don't think either way is wrong.

]]> By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146848 meg Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:08:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146848 Monia, you obviously come from the west or some industrial place where they know nothing on how to raise cattle. There is only one major dairy in WI that has EVER been even cited by PETA for being "cruel" by THEIR standards, and that's saying a lot. The majority of WI and even midwest beef is not raised in the holding pens that veal and pork is (which yes, is cruel). Next time you feel like spouting nonsense about an industry that you obviously dont know about and/or live in a horrible state for (i.e. California/the south east US), go to ALF. I'm sure they'll care. Monia, you obviously come from the west or some industrial place where they know nothing on how to raise cattle. There is only one major dairy in WI that has EVER been even cited by PETA for being "cruel" by THEIR standards, and that's saying a lot. The majority of WI and even midwest beef is not raised in the holding pens that veal and pork is (which yes, is cruel).

Next time you feel like spouting nonsense about an industry that you obviously dont know about and/or live in a horrible state for (i.e. California/the south east US), go to ALF. I'm sure they'll care.

]]> By: MoniA http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146732 MoniA Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:09:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146732 This is gross! I'm not really a "vegan" but I don't eat any meat, eggs or dairy. After seeing some real factory farms in person I realized how cruel most of the meat and dairy industry is. This is gross! I'm not really a "vegan" but I don't eat any meat, eggs or dairy. After seeing some real factory farms in person I realized how cruel most of the meat and dairy industry is.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146575 Alex Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:45:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146575 Isn't bull a male cow? Isn't bull a male cow?

]]> By: colin ferguson http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146566 colin ferguson Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:22:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146566 o lordy lordy did we have to see that bovines mutated turdcutter? P.U.! o lordy lordy did we have to see that bovines mutated turdcutter? P.U.!

]]> By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146550 meg Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:02:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146550 Third row down, fifth from the left, there's a cow. I wonder if she's fertile or not? Third row down, fifth from the left, there's a cow. I wonder if she's fertile or not?

]]> By: meg http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146547 meg Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:00:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146547 Padraig...I've never once seen it in cows. I'm no genetecist but I'm fairly certain it only happens in bulls. Piedmont bulls with this gene defect fetch a very nice price, but personally I'm not a fan of the meat...it's too tender. Padraig...I've never once seen it in cows. I'm no genetecist but I'm fairly certain it only happens in bulls. Piedmont bulls with this gene defect fetch a very nice price, but personally I'm not a fan of the meat...it's too tender.

]]> By: Ali S. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146522 Ali S. Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:15:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146522 @ fluff *slaps forehead* Looks like someone needs to relearn their barn animals and food pyramid correlations. @ fluff

*slaps forehead*

Looks like someone needs to relearn their barn animals and food pyramid correlations.

]]> By: c-dub http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146511 c-dub Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:52:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146511 Ham is pig. Ham is pig.

]]> By: Padraig http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146510 Padraig Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:51:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146510 Mk... Saw a whole bunch of bulls. Where's the cows? Mk... Saw a whole bunch of bulls. Where's the cows?

]]> By: fluff http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/comment-page-1/#comment-146308 fluff Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:02:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/07/staring-down-supercows-butt/#comment-146308 I smell ham! [homeresque dribbling and oozing all over the keyboard....Zappp!] I smell ham! [homeresque dribbling and oozing all over the keyboard....Zappp!]

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