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	<title>Comments on: More fuel for the UFO mystery fire</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Stanhope</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141903</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Stanhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had access to a laser printer in 1986.  They certainly would have access to one at a well-funded Silicon Valley operation.  (That&#039;s not to say that I don&#039;t think this is a hoax - I most certainly do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had access to a laser printer in 1986.  They certainly would have access to one at a well-funded Silicon Valley operation.  (That's not to say that I don't think this is a hoax - I most certainly do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Commandor Zlorg of What You Earthlings Refer To As Pluto</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141564</link>
		<dc:creator>Commandor Zlorg of What You Earthlings Refer To As Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;report&quot; looks like it was printed on a modern day laser printer.  If it was written in 1986, wouldn&#039;t it be either typed or on a dot matrix?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The "report" looks like it was printed on a modern day laser printer.  If it was written in 1986, wouldn't it be either typed or on a dot matrix?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141550</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>artbot is 100% right.  I&#039;m not sure how people can look at any of these images without knowing they are CG renderings.  It astounds me that this has gone as far as it has and people are still commenting that it could be real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artbot is 100% right.  I'm not sure how people can look at any of these images without knowing they are CG renderings.  It astounds me that this has gone as far as it has and people are still commenting that it could be real...</p>
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		<title>By: Rhyne</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141549</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am convinced this is a hoax - and suggested it on Digg when the story first came out - for two reasons: 

1) The &quot;Quarterly Reports&quot; sounded more like &quot;evidence&quot; and &quot;proof&quot; of said crafts rather than actual reports on the gains made in that period. Meaning, they used the &quot;reports&quot; to make the story work, citing history, technology, etc.

2) The photos show the craft near power poles or satellite dishes, which plays easily into the &quot;disrupted invisibility&quot; thing. 

Q.E.D.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced this is a hoax - and suggested it on Digg when the story first came out - for two reasons: </p>
<p>1) The "Quarterly Reports" sounded more like "evidence" and "proof" of said crafts rather than actual reports on the gains made in that period. Meaning, they used the "reports" to make the story work, citing history, technology, etc.</p>
<p>2) The photos show the craft near power poles or satellite dishes, which plays easily into the "disrupted invisibility" thing. </p>
<p>Q.E.D.!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Stanhope</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141454</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Stanhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob:

I&#039;m not convinced that &quot;Halo 3&quot; is the answer here.  The discussion you and others have pointed to doesn&#039;t make that case a slam dunk.  I&#039;m also not convinced that that flash animation thing is necessarily associated with the UFO pics.

As I mentioned before, by no stretch of the imagination do I believe that these UFOs are real or that there was actually a secret company established in Palo Alto to research extraterrestrial technology.

Regardless of the source of all this information, it&#039;s a brilliant hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:</p>
<p>I'm not convinced that "Halo 3" is the answer here.  The discussion you and others have pointed to doesn't make that case a slam dunk.  I'm also not convinced that that flash animation thing is necessarily associated with the UFO pics.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before, by no stretch of the imagination do I believe that these UFOs are real or that there was actually a secret company established in Palo Alto to research extraterrestrial technology.</p>
<p>Regardless of the source of all this information, it's a brilliant hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Adam on this one; brilliant hoax. Anything associated with Coast To Coast AM &amp; Art Bell is for the off-the-charts tin-foil-hat crowd. In other words, it&#039;s purified BS.

What I don&#039;t get is how elaborate this whole thing is. I can see coming up with a good story, but somebody has done a huge amount of work trying to make the gullible believe it&#039;s true. And for what? A guest spot on Art Bell&#039;s late-night radio show, or maybe a book deal that&#039;ll sell a couple thousand copies? 

I just don&#039;t get the motivation for some of this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm with Adam on this one; brilliant hoax. Anything associated with Coast To Coast AM &amp; Art Bell is for the off-the-charts tin-foil-hat crowd. In other words, it's purified BS.</p>
<p>What I don't get is how elaborate this whole thing is. I can see coming up with a good story, but somebody has done a huge amount of work trying to make the gullible believe it's true. And for what? A guest spot on Art Bell's late-night radio show, or maybe a book deal that'll sell a couple thousand copies? </p>
<p>I just don't get the motivation for some of this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Stanhope</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141271</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Stanhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough re: the Digg link being lame.  I&#039;m going to remove that.  Rest assured that my including it was only because I thought that this post was particularly interesting and thought it might be useful for bringing new traffic to this site.

Viral marketing for Halo 3 makes sense, I suppose.

Neither I nor Alex placed this post knowingly for viral marketing purposes (although Alex may have exercised some sort of MIND CONTROL over me without my knowledge and manipulated me into posting it from afar - but I doubt it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough re: the Digg link being lame.  I'm going to remove that.  Rest assured that my including it was only because I thought that this post was particularly interesting and thought it might be useful for bringing new traffic to this site.</p>
<p>Viral marketing for Halo 3 makes sense, I suppose.</p>
<p>Neither I nor Alex placed this post knowingly for viral marketing purposes (although Alex may have exercised some sort of MIND CONTROL over me without my knowledge and manipulated me into posting it from afar - but I doubt it).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Giachetti</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141263</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Giachetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, very tired of anything asking to be &quot;dugg&quot;. You want advertisement, pay for it.
Matter of fact, I&#039;ve removed a few sites from my bookmarks for that reason. If a request for a Digg is made, check into what that blogger gets in return. 

A whore by any other name, is still a whore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, very tired of anything asking to be "dugg". You want advertisement, pay for it.<br />
Matter of fact, I've removed a few sites from my bookmarks for that reason. If a request for a Digg is made, check into what that blogger gets in return. </p>
<p>A whore by any other name, is still a whore.</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its part of the halo 3 viral marketing campaign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its part of the halo 3 viral marketing campaign</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to look up Halo 3. Shows you how bleeding edge I am in terms of keeping up with &#039;em video games!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to look up Halo 3. Shows you how bleeding edge I am in terms of keeping up with 'em video games!</p>
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		<title>By: raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disclaimer â€“ I have no religious affilation
The web site&#039;s name is a lot like the last name of the guy who turned on that jesus fellow - or so the bible states. You think the author would pick a different name. Enough with the biblical allusions

looks like a _ _  
smells like _ _</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer â€“ I have no religious affilation<br />
The web site's name is a lot like the last name of the guy who turned on that jesus fellow - or so the bible states. You think the author would pick a different name. Enough with the biblical allusions</p>
<p>looks like a _ _<br />
smells like _ _</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it probably is halo 3. one of those pictures resembles a sentinel (an enemy in the game)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it probably is halo 3. one of those pictures resembles a sentinel (an enemy in the game)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141014</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a google cache link, the original seems to have been removed (conspiracy!) :P

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:32C8jsEi1ZwJ:www.nowpublic.com/ufo_unmasked_marketing_campaign_for_halo_3

Through one of the links on that page, there is a link to this:
http://206.16.223.61/E5h2JK/flash/web/index.html

Which is pretty obvious.

Even this particular neatorama post seems contrived, particularly with the digg link and all.  Viral marketing is a wonderful thing, you trick other people into promoting your product for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a google cache link, the original seems to have been removed (conspiracy!) <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:32C8jsEi1ZwJ:www.nowpublic.com/ufo_unmasked_marketing_campaign_for_halo_3" rel="nofollow">http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:32C8jsEi1ZwJ:www.nowpublic.com/uf o_unmasked_marketing_campaign_for_halo_3</a></p>
<p>Through one of the links on that page, there is a link to this:<br />
<a href="http://206.16.223.61/E5h2JK/flash/web/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://206.16.223.61/E5h2JK/flash/web/index.html</a></p>
<p>Which is pretty obvious.</p>
<p>Even this particular neatorama post seems contrived, particularly with the digg link and all.  Viral marketing is a wonderful thing, you trick other people into promoting your product for free.</p>
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		<title>By: just a guy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-141011</link>
		<dc:creator>just a guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any link to confirm this, chad? Not that I don&#039;t believe you, but it would help.

Man, that&#039;s a lot of BS work for an advertisement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any link to confirm this, chad? Not that I don't believe you, but it would help.</p>
<p>Man, that's a lot of BS work for an advertisement.</p>
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		<title>By: artbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>artbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this had been exposed as a hoax weeks ago.  It was quite obvious in the CG community that these were nothing but CG renderings of a 3D model passed off as a UFO.  The quality of the rendering and compositing are spottable from a mile by anyone with any knowledge of the rendering software and its particulars.

So why does it keep coming back from the dead?  The viral campaign explains a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this had been exposed as a hoax weeks ago.  It was quite obvious in the CG community that these were nothing but CG renderings of a 3D model passed off as a UFO.  The quality of the rendering and compositing are spottable from a mile by anyone with any knowledge of the rendering software and its particulars.</p>
<p>So why does it keep coming back from the dead?  The viral campaign explains a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/more-fuel-for-the-ufo-mystery-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-140977</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its viral advertising for Halo 3 (sorry if I spoiled the fun for anyone)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its viral advertising for Halo 3 (sorry if I spoiled the fun for anyone)</p>
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