Comments on: Easy Hydrogen Power from Water. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/ The Neat Side of the Web Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:41:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: TK http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-239761 TK Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:05:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-239761 Hey Neato, Lets not forget the millions of tons of toxic crap that comes out of every diesel engine on this planet. More toxic than petrol. And of course all the inventors who have disapeared or silenced in the name of cheap renewable energy. They had an alloy doing producing this reaction in 1957. Of course, they didnt want to stop selling oil... so it disapeared. Hey Neato,

Lets not forget the millions of tons of toxic crap that comes out of every diesel engine on this planet. More toxic than petrol.

And of course all the inventors who have disapeared or silenced in the name of cheap renewable energy.

They had an alloy doing producing this reaction in 1957.

Of course, they didnt want to stop selling oil... so it disapeared.

]]> By: LongJohn http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112720 LongJohn Sat, 19 May 2007 18:53:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112720 We used to mix aluminum foil with drain cleaner to make hydrogen gas, then fill balloons with it and make explosions in the sky. And as far as aluminum goes, it is the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust. Of course, it still is'nt a renewable fuel source. We used to mix aluminum foil with drain cleaner to make hydrogen gas, then fill balloons with it and make explosions in the sky. And as far as aluminum goes, it is the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust. Of course, it still is'nt a renewable fuel source.

]]> By: neato http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112696 neato Sat, 19 May 2007 17:10:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112696 Let us not forget that one of the by-products of burning hydrogen is the controversial chemical dihydrogen monoxide, or DHMO. Learn more about this scary chemical at: <a HREF="http://www.dhmo.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dhmo.org/</A> Let us not forget that one of the by-products of burning hydrogen is the controversial chemical dihydrogen monoxide, or DHMO. Learn more about this scary chemical at: http://www.dhmo.org/

]]> By: Marty the Chemist http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112646 Marty the Chemist Sat, 19 May 2007 14:48:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112646 Hey genius at 1:03....where might the carbon come from to make carbon dioxide? Hydrogen burns (mixes with oxygen) to form...guess what? H2O. Hey genius at 1:03....where might the carbon come from to make carbon dioxide? Hydrogen burns (mixes with oxygen) to form...guess what? H2O.

]]> By: Nyrath the nearly wise http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112619 Nyrath the nearly wise Sat, 19 May 2007 12:55:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112619 If you read the article closely, you will see that the system is basically "burning" (i.e., oxidizing) aluminum as fuel. Is aluminum cheaper than gasoline? No, JJ, as you should have learned in Chemistry 101, burning hydrogen produces hydrogen oxide, better known as water. The combustion can produces some nitrates, which will have to be scrubbed with a catalytic converter. If you read the article closely, you will see that the system is basically "burning" (i.e., oxidizing) aluminum as fuel. Is aluminum cheaper than gasoline?

No, JJ, as you should have learned in Chemistry 101, burning hydrogen produces hydrogen oxide, better known as water. The combustion can produces some nitrates, which will have to be scrubbed with a catalytic converter.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112615 Brandon Sat, 19 May 2007 12:34:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112615 A tenant of a local apartment building thought it might be fun if he tried to make a hydrogen fuel cell using a modified pressure cooker. Hilarity ensued: http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/05/firefighters_resident_being_tr.html http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/05/mercurypoisoning_victims_lose.php A tenant of a local apartment building thought it might be fun if he tried to make a hydrogen fuel cell using a modified pressure cooker.

Hilarity ensued:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/05/firefighters_resident_ being_tr.html

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/05/mercurypoisoning_victims_l ose.php

]]> By: Nicholas Dollak http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112597 Nicholas Dollak Sat, 19 May 2007 11:33:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112597 Re: jj's comments --- The article mentions nothing about carbon dioxide, which, along with carbon monoxide, is associated with burning fossil (carbon-based) fuels such as oil & gasoline. As far as I know, the only waste product of hydrogen fuel is water. This process, assuming it actually works, produces only water and aluminum oxide as waste; and it looks like they have a plan for how to handle the AlO. (Since AlO exists as a solid at Earth temperatures, it doesn't pollute the atmosphere. Don't eat it, though! I kind of figured that gallium would be the sticky wicket here, but it seems like they've crunched the numbers there, too. And even if it means stopping to refuel a little more frequently, I won't mind if all it means is carrying a jug of water and a box of pellets in the trunk. No more hunting for a service station that's still open at 11:00 PM! And any opportunity to cut my expenses while allowing me to get to work & back is welcome. I'm not ready to buy stock in the industry just yet. K. brings up a good point about Purdue's track record in the fuel technology department. For now, I've printed up the article for my files, and remain cautiously optimistic. Re: jj's comments ---

The article mentions nothing about carbon dioxide, which, along with carbon monoxide, is associated with burning fossil (carbon-based) fuels such as oil & gasoline. As far as I know, the only waste product of hydrogen fuel is water. This process, assuming it actually works, produces only water and aluminum oxide as waste; and it looks like they have a plan for how to handle the AlO. (Since AlO exists as a solid at Earth temperatures, it doesn't pollute the atmosphere. Don't eat it, though!

I kind of figured that gallium would be the sticky wicket here, but it seems like they've crunched the numbers there, too. And even if it means stopping to refuel a little more frequently, I won't mind if all it means is carrying a jug of water and a box of pellets in the trunk. No more hunting for a service station that's still open at 11:00 PM! And any opportunity to cut my expenses while allowing me to get to work & back is welcome.

I'm not ready to buy stock in the industry just yet. K. brings up a good point about Purdue's track record in the fuel technology department. For now, I've printed up the article for my files, and remain cautiously optimistic.

]]> By: Camillo Miller http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112587 Camillo Miller Sat, 19 May 2007 10:59:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112587 yarr !!! If it ain't real , they're gonna be food for the sharks! yarr !!! If it ain't real , they're gonna be food for the sharks!

]]> By: steph http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112490 steph Sat, 19 May 2007 06:37:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112490 I was just here for the pirate comments. I was not disappointed. Yar! I was just here for the pirate comments. I was not disappointed. Yar!

]]> By: jj http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112477 jj Sat, 19 May 2007 06:03:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112477 sigh we have a perfectly sustainable energy source with solar and wind power, but no, lets replace gas with some other exhaustable resource. hydrogen may be cleaner burning, but doesn't it still release carbon dioxide? i think its clearly obvious. we need bigger hummers and other ridiculously over sized vehicles, how else am i supposed to accentuate my small penis? sigh

we have a perfectly sustainable energy source with solar and wind power, but no, lets replace gas with some other exhaustable resource. hydrogen may be cleaner burning, but doesn't it still release carbon dioxide?

i think its clearly obvious. we need bigger hummers and other ridiculously over sized vehicles, how else am i supposed to accentuate my small penis?

]]> By: K http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112471 K Sat, 19 May 2007 05:46:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112471 Anyone but Purdue! They're already investigating one of their own professors, Rusi Taleyarkhan, for making fraudulent claims about fusion. And because Purdue officials are too cowardly to stand embarrassment, their "investigation" will have even less credibility than the professor's research. As for the aluminum alloy, pardon me if I remain a skeptic for a little while. Anyone but Purdue! They're already investigating one of their own professors, Rusi Taleyarkhan, for making fraudulent claims about fusion. And because Purdue officials are too cowardly to stand embarrassment, their "investigation" will have even less credibility than the professor's research.

As for the aluminum alloy, pardon me if I remain a skeptic for a little while.

]]> By: Nora http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112463 Nora Sat, 19 May 2007 05:18:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112463 Yarr its new energy, and energy be makin money.. and money buys dubloons...and grog! Yarr its new energy, and energy be makin money.. and money buys dubloons...and grog!

]]> By: Nate http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112452 Nate Sat, 19 May 2007 04:20:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112452 Yarrrr! We be making treasure with our science! Yarrrr! We be making treasure with our science!

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112449 Thomas Sat, 19 May 2007 03:59:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112449 How much energy does it take to make the alloy? How much energy does it take to make the alloy?

]]> By: Mick http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/comment-page-1/#comment-112439 Mick Sat, 19 May 2007 03:27:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/18/easy-hydrogen-power-from-water/#comment-112439 Looks like Doctor Hook there in the middle got some in his eye. Looks like Doctor Hook there in the middle got some in his eye.

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