Comments on: Freeway Collapse. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/ The Neat Side of the Web Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:10:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: jon uk http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-107759 jon uk Wed, 09 May 2007 09:39:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-107759 The loads on connecting bolts are much higher here than in WTC buildings - a 30m + span of freeway connected to too pillars at one end as opposed to floor sections connected to outer walls and central columns all around outer + inner perimeter. Any distortion is therefore magnified by the enormous weight of the road section - basically this thing sagged a bit and slipped off its supports (which are left standing - bet they'll just stick a new bit of road onto them). Lighter weight floor sections with evenly distributed bracing are far less liable to this kind of collapse. More importantly, though, where's the pancake effect? This thing just flopped down onto the freeway below - which remained standing so that the fire dept. could walk along it with hoses etc. But the drop was much more than that between floors of WTC, and the mass of the collapsed span enormously greater than a falling bit of floor. So I honestly don't think this validates any official explanation for Trade Center collapses The loads on connecting bolts are much higher here than in WTC buildings - a 30m + span of freeway connected to too pillars at one end as opposed to floor sections connected to outer walls and central columns all around outer + inner perimeter. Any distortion is therefore magnified by the enormous weight of the road section - basically this thing sagged a bit and slipped off its supports (which are left standing - bet they’ll just stick a new bit of road onto them). Lighter weight floor sections with evenly distributed bracing are far less liable to this kind of collapse.

More importantly, though, where’s the pancake effect? This thing just flopped down onto the freeway below - which remained standing so that the fire dept. could walk along it with hoses etc. But the drop was much more than that between floors of WTC, and the mass of the collapsed span enormously greater than a falling bit of floor.
So I honestly don’t think this validates any official explanation for Trade Center collapses

]]> By: Matt514 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104116 Matt514 Tue, 01 May 2007 03:41:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104116 Good stuff Miss Cellania :) worth noting in your writup though - the fire caused the collapse, not an explosion. It may sound odd, but that much fuel doesn't actually explode, but it does burn very well! The fumes from spilled gas DO explode, so an almost empty gas can is much more dangerous than a full one. Good stuff Miss Cellania :) worth noting in your writup though - the fire caused the collapse, not an explosion. It may sound odd, but that much fuel doesn’t actually explode, but it does burn very well! The fumes from spilled gas DO explode, so an almost empty gas can is much more dangerous than a full one.

]]> By: nadja http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104095 nadja Tue, 01 May 2007 01:08:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104095 It's in Oakland, actually. We gotta keep it straight, my East Bay peeps are the ones who melted the freeway... It’s in Oakland, actually. We gotta keep it straight, my East Bay peeps are the ones who melted the freeway…

]]> By: skh.pcola http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104090 skh.pcola Tue, 01 May 2007 00:32:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104090 Uh, no, Dave. This is the work of the eeeeeevil gubmint, see. Rosie says that this is only the SECOND time in all of recorded history that fire has melted steel. She's been hitting the Krispy Kremes a bit hard and might be hyperglycemic, though. Uh, no, Dave. This is the work of the eeeeeevil gubmint, see. Rosie says that this is only the SECOND time in all of recorded history that fire has melted steel. She’s been hitting the Krispy Kremes a bit hard and might be hyperglycemic, though.

]]> By: DrJones http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104087 DrJones Tue, 01 May 2007 00:11:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104087 Cool beans! Cool beans!

]]> By: Dave http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104074 Dave Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:01:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104074 Somebody tell Rosie O'Donnell about this quick! Gotta be another Presidential conspiracy, cuz everybody knows that fire can't melt steel or concrete! Somebody tell Rosie O’Donnell about this quick! Gotta be another Presidential conspiracy, cuz everybody knows that fire can’t melt steel or concrete!

]]> By: Miss Cellania http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104052 Miss Cellania Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:50:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104052 Ah! A coding error, fixed now. Thanks! Ah! A coding error, fixed now. Thanks!

]]> By: DrJones http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104046 DrJones Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:13:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/30/freeway-collapse/#comment-104046 The link to more pics isn't working, at least not for me. The link to more pics isn’t working, at least not for me.

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