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	<title>Comments on: Botticelli Illustrates Dante.</title>
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		<title>By: fatbear</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/08/botticelli-illustrates-dante/comment-page-1/#comment-96627</link>
		<dc:creator>fatbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dating is slightly iffy - Looks to me (and others) that Sandro did these at the point in his career when Savonarola was rising in Florence, pushing Sandro away from his more secular work (Venus, Spring, etc.) - probably more like early 1490s rather than 1480s - Sandro definitely stopped 1494-5, after Lorenzo&#039;s death and the banishment of the Medici from Florence (they were most likely his patron for these works, and would have been paying for them as protection from the Savonarola fundamentalism - and also, as Lorenzo was really sick, in hopes of grace in the next world)

But I should not forget that Sandro was probably moved by the murder of Guiliano de&#039; Medici (Lorenzo&#039;s brother) by the Pazzi conspirators in 1478, as they were best buds (per not such factual sources) and it&#039;s widely argued that the model for Venus (and the lady in Spring) was Guiliano&#039;s girl friend - so maybe 1480s works

ahh, Florence - to be there in the Spring....

P.S. - the bodies that da Vinci drew on the long gallows ropes are the Pazzi conspirators hanging high off the Palazzo della Signoria - he was &quot;using&quot; them to study pendulum motion and anatomy (he had nothing to do with the hanging, just watching) - at least that&#039;s the story handed down....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dating is slightly iffy - Looks to me (and others) that Sandro did these at the point in his career when Savonarola was rising in Florence, pushing Sandro away from his more secular work (Venus, Spring, etc.) - probably more like early 1490s rather than 1480s - Sandro definitely stopped 1494-5, after Lorenzo's death and the banishment of the Medici from Florence (they were most likely his patron for these works, and would have been paying for them as protection from the Savonarola fundamentalism - and also, as Lorenzo was really sick, in hopes of grace in the next world)</p>
<p>But I should not forget that Sandro was probably moved by the murder of Guiliano de' Medici (Lorenzo's brother) by the Pazzi conspirators in 1478, as they were best buds (per not such factual sources) and it's widely argued that the model for Venus (and the lady in Spring) was Guiliano's girl friend - so maybe 1480s works</p>
<p>ahh, Florence - to be there in the Spring....</p>
<p>P.S. - the bodies that da Vinci drew on the long gallows ropes are the Pazzi conspirators hanging high off the Palazzo della Signoria - he was "using" them to study pendulum motion and anatomy (he had nothing to do with the hanging, just watching) - at least that's the story handed down....</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, that reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cubby-hole.com/favourite-jokes.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this joke&lt;/a&gt; (see no. 5)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, that reminds me of <a href="http://www.cubby-hole.com/favourite-jokes.htm" rel="nofollow">this joke</a> (see no. 5)</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/08/botticelli-illustrates-dante/comment-page-1/#comment-96448</link>
		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Dore was basically an illustrator. I have an edition of his Paradise Lost and it&#039;s fantastic. It surprised me that Botticelli did a set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Dore was basically an illustrator. I have an edition of his Paradise Lost and it's fantastic. It surprised me that Botticelli did a set.</p>
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		<title>By: L.B. Jeffries</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/08/botticelli-illustrates-dante/comment-page-1/#comment-96442</link>
		<dc:creator>L.B. Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pffft, this stuff nothing compared to Gustave Dore&#039;s illustrations. You want to see Hell? Check out this guy&#039;s version:

http://www.artpassions.net/cgi-bin/dore_image.pl?../galleries/dore/inferno1.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pffft, this stuff nothing compared to Gustave Dore's illustrations. You want to see Hell? Check out this guy's version:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artpassions.net/cgi-bin/dore_image.pl?../galleries/dore/inferno1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.artpassions.net/cgi-bin/dore_image.pl?../galleries/dore/inf erno1.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ovation TV (a really cool TV channel) had an hour-long documentary on these drawings that was really quite spectacular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ovation TV (a really cool TV channel) had an hour-long documentary on these drawings that was really quite spectacular.</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/04/08/botticelli-illustrates-dante/comment-page-1/#comment-96412</link>
		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;m on in, the excrement&#039;s fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C'm on in, the excrement's fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mzungu54</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mzungu54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t look that bad, want me to go first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn't look that bad, want me to go first?</p>
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