Comments on: Five-Star Prison Cells for Jailed Families. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:05:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Steve http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75697 Steve Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:46:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75697 Mike: The point of punishing people by putting them in jail is that they are not free to do what they want and, most importantly, that they can't go wherever they want to go. You don't have to treat people badly for that to be a punishment -- try staying in your house for a year or so. That said, this is hardly unique. It's actually quite common in some European countries. And it makes sense, you want people that are released from jail to be integrated in their surroundings and not lose all outside contact. That way they're much less likely to commit crimes again. Mike: The point of punishing people by putting them in jail is that they are not free to do what they want and, most importantly, that they can’t go wherever they want to go. You don’t have to treat people badly for that to be a punishment — try staying in your house for a year or so.

That said, this is hardly unique. It’s actually quite common in some European countries. And it makes sense, you want people that are released from jail to be integrated in their surroundings and not lose all outside contact. That way they’re much less likely to commit crimes again.

]]> By: Mike http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75674 Mike Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:21:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75674 If prison isn't punitive, what's the point? If prison isn’t punitive, what’s the point?

]]> By: Chad http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75673 Chad Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:09:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75673 weird, there are more people trying to figure out what in the hell sam was talking about than commenting on the post! about the post... I really like this idea. I can see some people with absolutely zero parenting skills greatly benefiting from this. there are just those kinds of people that never learned how to be a good mother or father from their own parents so to me if there is any more important lesson to learn,(and why not while in prison?) its how to be a parent. weird, there are more people trying to figure out what in the hell sam was talking about than commenting on the post!

about the post… I really like this idea. I can see some people with absolutely zero parenting skills greatly benefiting from this. there are just those kinds of people that never learned how to be a good mother or father from their own parents so to me if there is any more important lesson to learn,(and why not while in prison?) its how to be a parent.

]]> By: reos3 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75587 reos3 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:20:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75587 The reasons why there are mostly latin-american (immigrant) families in this Spanish jail may be: Spaniards might already have broader social circles or wider families rooted in Madrid. These may take care of the kids when both parents are in prison. Mom and dad in prison means a messy family most of the time, unsuitable for kids all along. This is not the case. The most prevalent crime for this kind of functioning families may be one-time drug-smuggling. This crime is frequent in some immigration routes to Spain. The highest crime rate for migrants in Spain does not go to latin-americans, but they may have more structured families than other groups. The reasons why there are mostly latin-american (immigrant) families in this Spanish jail may be:

Spaniards might already have broader social circles or wider families rooted in Madrid. These may take care of the kids when both parents are in prison.

Mom and dad in prison means a messy family most of the time, unsuitable for kids all along.

This is not the case. The most prevalent crime for this kind of functioning families may be one-time drug-smuggling. This crime is frequent in some immigration routes to Spain.

The highest crime rate for migrants in Spain does not go to latin-americans, but they may have more structured families than other groups.

]]> By: reos3 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75584 reos3 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:01:48 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75584 Latinoamerican[o, a] (Sp.) Spanish-speaking Northern- or Sourthern-American. Borrowed from the French, which in some former time may probably have meant French-speaking people like Haitians and Quebecois, too. Latino (Sp.) 1. -> Latinoamericano (In Spain this is what you mean by Latino 99.9% of the time). 2. Person from the region of Lazio, Italy. América (Sp.) The landmass of Northern and Southern America. Latinoamerican[o, a] (Sp.) Spanish-speaking Northern- or Sourthern-American. Borrowed from the French, which in some former time may probably have meant French-speaking people like Haitians and Quebecois, too.

Latino (Sp.) 1. -> Latinoamericano (In Spain this is what you mean by Latino 99.9% of the time). 2. Person from the region of Lazio, Italy.

América (Sp.) The landmass of Northern and Southern America.

]]> By: owen http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75513 owen Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:47:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75513 I think Sam questioned "Latin Americans" because this is in Madrid, Spain. Why are the people in prison Latin Americans... they might be Latin but I doubt they're all from North or South America. Though I guess they could be. I think Sam questioned “Latin Americans” because this is in Madrid, Spain. Why are the people in prison Latin Americans… they might be Latin but I doubt they’re all from North or South America. Though I guess they could be.

]]> By: Eugenio Martínez Sierra http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75491 Eugenio Martínez Sierra Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:45:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75491 Sam: In all the non-english and no french speaker world, the people from USA are "people from usa" (Estadounidenses o méi guó ren), not americans. Americans are the people of America: From Chile to Canada Sam: In all the non-english and no french speaker world, the people from USA are “people from usa” (Estadounidenses o méi guó ren), not americans. Americans are the people of America: From Chile to Canada

]]> By: Sam http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75455 Sam Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:44:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75455 Umm... Latin AMERICANS? Umm… Latin AMERICANS?

]]> By: Eugenio Martínez Sierra http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75377 Eugenio Martínez Sierra Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:04:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/02/08/five-star-prison-cells-for-jailed-families/#comment-75377 It contrast with the hunger striker De Juana: First http://www.elconfidencial.com/fotos/espana/2007012588juana.jpg Next: http://www.periodistadigital.com/imgs/20070206/dejuanachaos.jpg It contrast with the hunger striker De Juana:

First http://www.elconfidencial.com/fotos/espana/2007012588juana.jpg

Next:
http://www.periodistadigital.com/imgs/20070206/dejuanachaos.jpg

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