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		<title>By: JoshuaPettigrew</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-826019</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshuaPettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point with the collider and all these massive public work projects is that no one knows what the money spent on these things would have done if left in the hands of taxpayers. Taxes taken from the people come at the cost of forgone opportunities. To say that politicians or scientists or whoever knows for sure that this burden upon the economy will blossom in the future is to deify mortals who have no such perfect knowledge. If they did, then they could gamble in the market and earn the money it would take to fund these projects. 

Henry Hazlitt&#039;s &quot;Economics in One Lesson&quot; is invaluable reading by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point with the collider and all these massive public work projects is that no one knows what the money spent on these things would have done if left in the hands of taxpayers. Taxes taken from the people come at the cost of forgone opportunities. To say that politicians or scientists or whoever knows for sure that this burden upon the economy will blossom in the future is to deify mortals who have no such perfect knowledge. If they did, then they could gamble in the market and earn the money it would take to fund these projects. </p>
<p>Henry Hazlitt's "Economics in One Lesson" is invaluable reading by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I see racial self-segregation all the time, and I want to investigate the issue more thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I see racial self-segregation all the time, and I want to investigate the issue more thoroughly.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43888</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mig Says: 
October 24th, 2006 at 11:41 am 

Comment:&quot;The largest particle accelerator in the world is the CERN LEP - itâ€™s circonference is 27 km, not 5 miles.&quot;

Original Text: &quot;Theyâ€™re called particle accelerators, and the largest one is a mere 5 miles in diameter.&quot;

5 miles (US Landmile)= 5*1604m = 8020 m
27000 m (circ)/ 3.1415 (Pi) = 8407.2961 m = 5.241... miles (diam)

And anyhow it is better located in neutral Swizzerland and partially under France with 20 countries owning it under supervision of the EU plus 5 other countries (incl. US) with permission to use it than it would have been in USA. Hey guys, you already own space ;-),there is so much room for other experiments and you can shoot anyone who disturbs You  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mig Says:<br />
October 24th, 2006 at 11:41 am </p>
<p>Comment:"The largest particle accelerator in the world is the CERN LEP - itâ€™s circonference is 27 km, not 5 miles."</p>
<p>Original Text: "Theyâ€™re called particle accelerators, and the largest one is a mere 5 miles in diameter."</p>
<p>5 miles (US Landmile)= 5*1604m = 8020 m<br />
27000 m (circ)/ 3.1415 (Pi) = 8407.2961 m = 5.241... miles (diam)</p>
<p>And anyhow it is better located in neutral Swizzerland and partially under France with 20 countries owning it under supervision of the EU plus 5 other countries (incl. US) with permission to use it than it would have been in USA. Hey guys, you already own space <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ,there is so much room for other experiments and you can shoot anyone who disturbs You  <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MAthias</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, interesting list. I never before heard about the Florida crossing canel. 
You could think about adding the Qaraqum Canal,
the world biggest water supply project as a sample for
long term destroying of a huge landscape (drying out the aral sea).

The SSC is right in this list representing nearly every project there public money is spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, interesting list. I never before heard about the Florida crossing canel.<br />
You could think about adding the Qaraqum Canal,<br />
the world biggest water supply project as a sample for<br />
long term destroying of a huge landscape (drying out the aral sea).</p>
<p>The SSC is right in this list representing nearly every project there public money is spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbledorito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumbledorito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would put forward the Iraq war, myself, if only for the approximately 2.2 trillion dollars that nobody can account for.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, that was a well written comment. Thank you. But I disagree:

The next leap in knowledge will occur in biology (and nanotechnology, which will overlap significantly with molecular biology), and perhaps in quantum computing. None of which will benefit from the SSC. Money would be better spent on these &quot;smaller&quot; projects than the massive collider.

In physics, theories are years ahead of experiments. There are many theories that propound to explain how the universe works. None have practical applications, at least not for decades if not longer (or ever).

Lastly, we overlook the dangers of the SSC: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/24/scientists-mini-bangs-dangerous-nah/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scientists are Trying to Create Baby Bangs&lt;/a&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, that was a well written comment. Thank you. But I disagree:</p>
<p>The next leap in knowledge will occur in biology (and nanotechnology, which will overlap significantly with molecular biology), and perhaps in quantum computing. None of which will benefit from the SSC. Money would be better spent on these "smaller" projects than the massive collider.</p>
<p>In physics, theories are years ahead of experiments. There are many theories that propound to explain how the universe works. None have practical applications, at least not for decades if not longer (or ever).</p>
<p>Lastly, we overlook the dangers of the SSC: <a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/24/scientists-mini-bangs-dangerous-nah/" rel="nofollow">Scientists are Trying to Create Baby Bangs</a>. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the SSC, John said: &quot;... And as for the â€œcost-benefitâ€ analysisâ€¦ How can we meaningfully assign dollar amounts to knowledge? Our increasing understanding of how the Universe works on its most fundamental levels is one of the primary causitive factors in many of the most important technological advances of the last century, and the benefits we could gain from a true supercollider are incalculable! ...&quot;

Which advances are these exactly? Hint: most particle physicists do not claim their research has any slightest impact on technological advances. So it is surprising you obviously found such advances. Maybe you can give an example? And why exactly should the SCC fiasco be not included in this list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the SSC, John said: "... And as for the â€œcost-benefitâ€ analysisâ€¦ How can we meaningfully assign dollar amounts to knowledge? Our increasing understanding of how the Universe works on its most fundamental levels is one of the primary causitive factors in many of the most important technological advances of the last century, and the benefits we could gain from a true supercollider are incalculable! ..."</p>
<p>Which advances are these exactly? Hint: most particle physicists do not claim their research has any slightest impact on technological advances. So it is surprising you obviously found such advances. Maybe you can give an example? And why exactly should the SCC fiasco be not included in this list?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the SSC, Alex said:
&quot;The merit of the knowledge to be gained from having a giant collider has to be balanced with the cost. The money wouldâ€™ve been better spent doing other (smaller and more numerous) science projects.&quot;

It doesn&#039;t work that way.  Smaller projects - no matter how numerous - simply cannot achieve the same energy levels as a large supercollider and therefore can never duplicate the sorts of experiments that the supercollider was intended for.  By their very nature, small experiments can never garner us the same knowledge as the supercollider would have.  And as for the &quot;cost-benefit&quot; analysis...  How can we meaningfully assign dollar amounts to knowledge?  Our increasing understanding of how the Universe works on its most fundamental levels is one of the primary causitive factors in many of the most important technological advances of the last century, and the benefits we could gain from a true supercollider are incalculable!  Knowledge is not part of a free-market, producer-consumer relationship, you can&#039;t dismiss it as nothing more than an economic factor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the SSC, Alex said:<br />
"The merit of the knowledge to be gained from having a giant collider has to be balanced with the cost. The money wouldâ€™ve been better spent doing other (smaller and more numerous) science projects."</p>
<p>It doesn't work that way.  Smaller projects - no matter how numerous - simply cannot achieve the same energy levels as a large supercollider and therefore can never duplicate the sorts of experiments that the supercollider was intended for.  By their very nature, small experiments can never garner us the same knowledge as the supercollider would have.  And as for the "cost-benefit" analysis...  How can we meaningfully assign dollar amounts to knowledge?  Our increasing understanding of how the Universe works on its most fundamental levels is one of the primary causitive factors in many of the most important technological advances of the last century, and the benefits we could gain from a true supercollider are incalculable!  Knowledge is not part of a free-market, producer-consumer relationship, you can't dismiss it as nothing more than an economic factor!</p>
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		<title>By: Tarball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the SSC should only be on this list because it was canceled... Thats the stupid part. the Crusader artillery program cost 11 billion *SPENT MONEY* and was then canceled. So for the cost of a failed weapons development you could have gotten close to finishing the SSC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the SSC should only be on this list because it was canceled... Thats the stupid part. the Crusader artillery program cost 11 billion *SPENT MONEY* and was then canceled. So for the cost of a failed weapons development you could have gotten close to finishing the SSC</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the problems of the Big Dig have been well publicized, I don&#039;t think it qualifies as a complete and total failure yet.  It can still be saved, from what I understand, though I admit I have not been following the story closely.  Perhaps a Boston resident could clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the problems of the Big Dig have been well publicized, I don't think it qualifies as a complete and total failure yet.  It can still be saved, from what I understand, though I admit I have not been following the story closely.  Perhaps a Boston resident could clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Mig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The largest particle accelerator in the world is the CERN LEP - it&#039;s circonference is 27 km, not 5 miles.

You should have added the first attempted building of the Panama Canal to the list, btw.</description>
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<p>You should have added the first attempted building of the Panama Canal to the list, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to agree with Alex on the SSC. Thought the contributions to science would&#039;ve been numerous, both the overall project cost and the annual cost of running just wouldn&#039;t have made it worth it. it wasn&#039;t worth it to this day, because all we have to show for it is a very large hole in the ground. an incomplete hole at that. lots of storage space? sure! necessary? absolutely not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd have to agree with Alex on the SSC. Thought the contributions to science would've been numerous, both the overall project cost and the annual cost of running just wouldn't have made it worth it. it wasn't worth it to this day, because all we have to show for it is a very large hole in the ground. an incomplete hole at that. lots of storage space? sure! necessary? absolutely not.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, the SSC being on here displays ignorance of the smallest details of particle physics.  The point of the SSC was to try and reach the energy levels required to reproduce the highest-energy fundamental particles, IIRC.  Namely the Higgs Boson, and possibly the upper-energy quarks.  Also, the difference between the SSC&#039;s 20 TeV (that&#039;s tera-electron-volts) and the more typical accelerators 10-20 GeV (giga-electron-volts) or a high-energy accelerator&#039;s 100-200 GeV (the RHIC according to wikipedia may have achieved 400 GeV... once... briefly).

The thing is that if we hadn&#039;t bailed on the SSC, it would be *done* *now*, and the testability of the Higgs Boson wouldn&#039;t be still waiting on CERN&#039;s 14 TeV collider, the LHC.  When the LHC is finished, a lot of high-energy physics will probably move to Switzerland.  And don&#039;t spout the crap about &#039;it&#039;s only about national pride&#039;; basic science eventually pays off, usually in spades, and the US has been resting comfortably on a fast-eroding store of advances in same because it&#039;s expensive and doesn&#039;t show up on the bottom line.

This being said, maybe the tunnels that they dug would be a good place to live...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, the SSC being on here displays ignorance of the smallest details of particle physics.  The point of the SSC was to try and reach the energy levels required to reproduce the highest-energy fundamental particles, IIRC.  Namely the Higgs Boson, and possibly the upper-energy quarks.  Also, the difference between the SSC's 20 TeV (that's tera-electron-volts) and the more typical accelerators 10-20 GeV (giga-electron-volts) or a high-energy accelerator's 100-200 GeV (the RHIC according to wikipedia may have achieved 400 GeV... once... briefly).</p>
<p>The thing is that if we hadn't bailed on the SSC, it would be *done* *now*, and the testability of the Higgs Boson wouldn't be still waiting on CERN's 14 TeV collider, the LHC.  When the LHC is finished, a lot of high-energy physics will probably move to Switzerland.  And don't spout the crap about 'it's only about national pride'; basic science eventually pays off, usually in spades, and the US has been resting comfortably on a fast-eroding store of advances in same because it's expensive and doesn't show up on the bottom line.</p>
<p>This being said, maybe the tunnels that they dug would be a good place to live...</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Holger: it&#039;s just a $2 billion hole in the ground right now.

Big Dig wasn&#039;t on the original mental_floss article, Zig Zag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're right, Holger: it's just a $2 billion hole in the ground right now.</p>
<p>Big Dig wasn't on the original mental_floss article, Zig Zag.</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not see, why for the supercollider the costs for the tax payers are given as 12 billion dollars. In the other section this point only states the money actually spent. To my information that would be 2 billion dollars for the supercollider. And also no atom was killed. They did not get this far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see, why for the supercollider the costs for the tax payers are given as 12 billion dollars. In the other section this point only states the money actually spent. To my information that would be 2 billion dollars for the supercollider. And also no atom was killed. They did not get this far.</p>
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		<title>By: Zig Zag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zig Zag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Big Dig isn&#039;t on here?</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cost of the SSC kept on rising and rising, with the latest estimate to be anywhere between $8 and $12 billion.  Estimated cost of running the thing will be $500 million annually.

The merit of the knowledge to be gained from having a giant collider has to be balanced with the cost. The money would&#039;ve been better spent doing other (smaller and more numerous) science projects.

The SSC just wasn&#039;t worth it, guys. Not at $12 billion.

Collin, maybe we just have to wait for the CERN Large Hadron Collider to come online, estimated to be in 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of the SSC kept on rising and rising, with the latest estimate to be anywhere between $8 and $12 billion.  Estimated cost of running the thing will be $500 million annually.</p>
<p>The merit of the knowledge to be gained from having a giant collider has to be balanced with the cost. The money would've been better spent doing other (smaller and more numerous) science projects.</p>
<p>The SSC just wasn't worth it, guys. Not at $12 billion.</p>
<p>Collin, maybe we just have to wait for the CERN Large Hadron Collider to come online, estimated to be in 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Gzim and Adam.  I can&#039;t believe you included the SSC with these other senseless boondoggles.  The SSC would have capabilites beyond any other accelerator built or planned, and would have provided invaluable scientific contributions.  Its demise, and inclusion here, is another example of the lack of foresight and fickleness of Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Gzim and Adam.  I can't believe you included the SSC with these other senseless boondoggles.  The SSC would have capabilites beyond any other accelerator built or planned, and would have provided invaluable scientific contributions.  Its demise, and inclusion here, is another example of the lack of foresight and fickleness of Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43580</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also fixed the no. 5 coming before no.4. Although in Russia, no one would have questioned this and lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also fixed the no. 5 coming before no.4. Although in Russia, no one would have questioned this and lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43579</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks ROF, Lynn and Tom Flaherty, I&#039;ve corrected the errors.

Regarding the SSC, the cost overruns are just horrendous (rule no.1 in public works: anything that requires digging will cost *multiples* of the original estimate. Case in point, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CERN Large Hadron Collider&lt;/a&gt;).

Do you guys remember one of the reason for having the International Space Station was so that scientists can grow protein crystals in microgravity, solve the structure, design drugs or inhibitors and cure AIDS/cancer/whatever?  Curing disease was and still is a reliable way to get grant money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ROF, Lynn and Tom Flaherty, I've corrected the errors.</p>
<p>Regarding the SSC, the cost overruns are just horrendous (rule no.1 in public works: anything that requires digging will cost *multiples* of the original estimate. Case in point, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider" rel="nofollow">CERN Large Hadron Collider</a>).</p>
<p>Do you guys remember one of the reason for having the International Space Station was so that scientists can grow protein crystals in microgravity, solve the structure, design drugs or inhibitors and cure AIDS/cancer/whatever?  Curing disease was and still is a reliable way to get grant money.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43578</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Teton dam story was interresting and mostly true except the part about it being the Snake River it is the Teton river. I am glad they have not rebuilt it again. All I can say is &quot;Go Nuke&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Teton dam story was interresting and mostly true except the part about it being the Snake River it is the Teton river. I am glad they have not rebuilt it again. All I can say is "Go Nuke".</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43577</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support the supercollider.  Particle accelerators are essential tools in the study of particle physics.  However the idea that they can cure HIV is pure BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the supercollider.  Particle accelerators are essential tools in the study of particle physics.  However the idea that they can cure HIV is pure BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Gzim</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43571</link>
		<dc:creator>Gzim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you put the SSC in with these other waste projects, the great knowledge we can learn from a project like this would have outlived our lives, our generation, and our nation. The potential to make an achievement for mankind shouldn&#039;t be overlooked so lightly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't believe you put the SSC in with these other waste projects, the great knowledge we can learn from a project like this would have outlived our lives, our generation, and our nation. The potential to make an achievement for mankind shouldn't be overlooked so lightly...</p>
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		<title>By: ROF</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43567</link>
		<dc:creator>ROF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone might want to do some &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Proxmire&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;research&quot; &lt;/a&gt; on William Proxmire, who was always the Senator from Wisconsin afaik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone might want to do some <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Proxmire" rel="nofollow"> "research" </a> on William Proxmire, who was always the Senator from Wisconsin afaik.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I live in Missouri.  Well, at least the program is over, so I can start sacrificing goats and worshipping Nosferatu again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I live in Missouri.  Well, at least the program is over, so I can start sacrificing goats and worshipping Nosferatu again.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2006/10/23/governments-fund-the-darnedest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43499</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing. I could have really used that full-time job combatting goths in Missouri. I&#039;d spend all day doing nothing, like I do now, except I&#039;d be paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. I could have really used that full-time job combatting goths in Missouri. I'd spend all day doing nothing, like I do now, except I'd be paid.</p>
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